I was able to avoid giving my home address to the company I currently work for. But if I work for a company with branches throughout the country, does the new hires directory match my name to the address of my specific office?

And if so, let’s say I transfer to another location within the company. Would this new office address then go into the new hires directory, or does the initial hiring information remain unchanged?

I was also curious about who can gain access to the directory. The website says that “commercial entities (e.g., law firms and collection agencies) do not have access to the NDNH.” However, I assume that at least most law enforcement and probably P.I.s can get into it somehow. Just curious… The link below has more info on what the agency requires employers to provide about new hires.

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I have been using your privacy methods in order to avoid someone who is also a close relative in another state. I payed cash for a house using one of your LLC's in June and did not put any of the utilities in my name. I have been receiving all mail at a small privately owned commercial mailbox business about 20 miles away from the house, although I had to use my real name.

I created a seperate NM LLC(not through HTBI) and gifted my car to it at the same time I put new TX tags on it in March(I moved to TX from out of state one year ago). My real name is not on the LLC as organizer.

In September I was stopped by police near the mailbox business(3 miles away) for no reason except to notify me that the relative had filed a missing person report on me and they took my current address and phone which they reported back to the out of state agency(I then told the police I did not want the relative to know my current location).

Do you have an idea of the most likely method I was located(after being invisible for one year)? Apparantly it has something to do with the car, but I bought a new car last year and the relative did not know what I was driving. Also, the state I moved to was not known. "

This is an example of the fact that it is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to hide from the government.

If you continued to use your real name, if you voted, if you opened a bank account, filed your taxes or even simply opened a post office box in your own name, that information gets passed around and ALL of it is open to law enforcement.

When I moved, and opened a new PO box in my name in a nearby community (using my old address that is still "technically" my home address), that new PO box was reported to the credit reporting agencies within 72 HOURS of opening it.

The first place a skip tracer (including the police) will go is to your credit report. While Joe Average Skip Tracer might not have access to certain details in your credit file, the police can access ANY information if they are engaged in a legitimate investigation, and that includes missing persons investigations.

Knowing that you'd opened a PO box, and having a legit missing person's report, and likely a photo from your relative, the originating agency forwarded the BOLO (Be on the lookout) to all agencies in that area using the NCIC (National Crime Information Center) computer system.

The BOLO remains in the federal system until the person is located, which can mean literally forever. If you're EVER stopped somewhere, your name pops up as a "person of interest" or "missing person" because EVERY police department queries NCIC for warrants and wants on EVERY traffic stop.

The police in the jurisdiction where your PO box is located had a missing person's report with a photo, and likely were told to be on watch, and eventually you got stopped. Must be a small town, if they have nothing better to do than sit around at the post office looking for a missing person.

Now, here's where you made a serious mistake: You should NOT have given them your home address OR your phone number, you should have politely declined this request, citing your personal privacy. (By the way, dump the phone and get a new phone in the name of one of your LLC's, even if you have to pay more for a business number. Do it right away, and then don't give the number to ANYONE.)

Here's how the conversation should have gone:

Officer: Hello Brenda, I'm officer Jones. I have a missing persons report out on you and I'd like to check to make sure you're okay.

Brenda: Thank you officer Jones, I'm fine, and I'd appreciate it if you would notify the originating agency that the report was instigated by a stalker in an attempt to find me, and I want NO information given to ANYONE under ANY circumstances. I want the report closed as "unfounded" and I want the originating agency to be notified that they are not to tell the instigator that I have been located. If that information is released to anyone, I will immediately sue everyone involved for an invasion of my privacy.

This is a matter of personal privacy, and I demand that my privacy be respected and that all records of this contact, and the report itself, be destroyed.

Officer: Well, Ma'm, I'm just trying to do my job, don't get mad at me. Can I see some identification please?

Brenda: I'm not mad at you officer, I simply want to be left alone, which is my right as a free adult. Unless I am under arrest, I respectfully decline to provide you with any information that might inadvertently or deliberately be leaked to the person I am trying to avoid, therefore I decline your request for my home address or phone number. I hope you understand how important it is to me that my location be protected, I would hate to have to file a federal complaint against the town for violating my privacy. Thank you for your concern, but as you can see, I'm fine, I'm not under any duress, and I demand my privacy be respected.

Am I free to leave now officer?

Officer: Well, yes Ma'm, you're not under arrest, so you're free to leave.

But now you're in their system, with your new home address linked to your name, and this means that if your stalker has "people skills" and can convince some credulous cop, he can query NCIC, find out which agency contacted you, and pass that info along. This gives your stalker the general area, which allows him/her to come and try to "social engineer" more information from the local police, and all the info he/she needs resides in the police files.

You really ought to move again, if you're in danger, but if you can't, it is IMPERATIVE that you go speak personally to the Chief of Police and firmly request that he, personally, collect all data that his officers have on you, including CONTACT CARDS, notes, reports and any other record, written or computerized, and purge it from the police department files, ESPECIALLY your new address.

If he won't cooperate, you should consider going to a local district judge and filing a petition for a writ of mandamus, which is an order of the court, binding upon the police department to purge all records of you, your address, and their contact with you. You might need a lawyer.

If you manage this, and you can get the originating agency to do the same thing, you might be safe.

This sad experience shows how one little error in trying to disappear can render all your work useless.

The most important thing you have to remember is to NEVER give up personal information to ANYONE for ANY reason, including the police, unless they can present you with a legal requirement or an order of the court to do so. And NEVER give them your actual home address under any circumstances, always have a plausible backup address, like a friend's house, that you can give them. Make sure your friend understands what's going on and will back you up if asked.

I hope you can resolve this situation. Be firm with the authorities, they don't have a legal leg to stand on, and you do.

I created a seperate NM LLC(not through HTBI) and gifted my car to it at the same time I put new TX tags on it in March(I moved to TX from out of state one year ago). My real name is not on the LLC as organizer.

In September I was stopped by police near the mailbox business(3 miles away) for no reason except to notify me that the relative had filed a missing person report on me and they took my current address and phone which they reported back to the out of state agency(I then told the police I did not want the relative to know my current location).

Do you have an idea of the most likely method I was located(after being invisible for one year)? Apparantly it has something to do with the car, but I bought a new car last year and the relative did not know what I was driving. Also, the state I moved to was not known.

This is what my wife an I both did with no problem--an electric bill mailed to the mailing address looked like we lived there. :)

Hope that helps and inspires, Thanks JJL for everything you do.

The post office might frown upon this if it suspected that the format was deliberate rather than some mistake, but wouldn't your mail still get to you box?

One reason for this is that, when asked for my address and begin giving my PO box, sometimes they'll interupt and say that they want my physical address for whatever reason (which, of course, I'll not give them).

(Despite the number following a CMRA address, many who request your address do not realize that it's not a street address, especially if, for example, you mention that you live in an apartment complex, and they assume it's the apartment number.)

... No one can give you a specific answer to this, Jack, because rules are not enforced equally in all post offices. Some will allow most anything to pass, and others are brutal! This applies in many other countries as well. For example, Rosie Enriquez took over a P.O. box 2 in a Canary Islands village when the original box holder moved away in the late 1990s. Every since, mail in any name has been delivered to that box. That is, until last week. A new postmaster has suddenly blocked all mail that is not in the name of the original box holder. Since the original box holder left the area 15 years ago, the PO Box is now useless.

Does an NM LLC that is only used to hold title to car(s) still file Fed. tax forms like usual LLC's even if there is no income? Thank You.

... It's a cleaner deal, Tom, to use a NM LLC for the sole purpose of car ownership. It is therefore transparent to the IRS.(That means it is never mentioned to the IRS and no tax return is required. If there is a capital gain, or income, it shows up on your own tax return.) Get the insurance in your own name.

I tried again a week or two ago, at a much smaller town not too far from where I plan to moor my new retirement home (a boat) when its structural repairs are done and I am ready to move aboard.

It all went very smoothly, indeed. The local P.O. wanted two pieces of ID, and I showed by passport and my driver's license. (The DL lists my true residence address as well as the mailing address at the PMB. I figured that no harm would be done, since I plan to move away from that residence when I move aboard the boat.)

They had a variety of sizes of P.O. Boxes for rent, and I chose size "C", which is large enough for any magazines to be laid flat in the box. I paid $100 cash for a year's rent, plus a key deposit. According to the notices I read when applying for the box, the info I supplied is kept on file at that local Post Office. There was no mention of it being entered into any national database.

I've checked the box several times now, and so far no mail at all has been received. I expect I may get some mail addressed to "occupant" or "box holder," but I will visit the P.O. box often enough to clear that out.

I have not yet given out my new P.O. Box address to anyone. For now, all mail is still being directed to the PMB here in Salem. When I do move aboard the boat, I'll tell trusted family members about the P.O. Box address.

The box lobby at that small-town Post Office is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I did not observe any CCTV cameras surveilling the box lobby.

From this experience, I infer that, when looking for a P.O. box, one should check out post offices in small towns!

She called over the manager who was hesitant at best. I told him that the passport was a federal document. He then ok'd it and left.

The lady then starts looking for my social security number, LOL, she casually asked me, while looking for that number on my passport, what my SSN was. Then she says , "OH, THERE IT IS!" Well, what she was looking at was my passport number.

o being curious, I silently wondered if I could enter my passport number into the small kiosk. If I entered my passport number instead of my true SSN, would it alert the cashier??? If it did not work, I was prepared to make this statement, "OH i thought you said enter your passport number"

So I entered the passport number and no alert came up at all. I have used the passport number several times and nothing negative has happened. It seems that maybe any number could be used and is only used for security purposes but I would not use a valid one that belongs to someone else

Unfortuneately, I have not found a niche to be able to work from home like your book explains but I am still searching.

... It appears that your passport, like mine, has nine digits--the same as a Social Security number ...

Connecticut requires all the usual info SSN/DOB/Address when setting up any checking accnt with an EIN. I don't know if it even matters to use a NM LLC in this situation, or just a plain old CT LLC. My accountant explained that the info Ct needs whether or one regeisters as a NM LLC or any other state LLC is fairly invasive.

Fortunately I'm moving next Summer. In the meantime here is what I intend to do:

Buy NM LLC. Open an account at a small bank here in CT. Use my real home address with the accountand EIN number docs, but have all mail sent to CMRA.

Create biz cards, letterhead and all biz collateral with CMRA address as return address, sans the # sign before the box number.

I do not have a ghost address yet, nor a nominee.

Is there anything else to do for the short term, which would protect privacy, or at least set me up for an easy dive off the grid when I move next summer?

Thanks - Joe

... I am not convinced you MUST form an LLC but since it is for a business purpose, I suggest you form the LLC in your own state. (Perhaps it can be owned by a NM LLC with an address in Alaska but check first with your accountant.)

There are so many lapses in logic with this plan that I truly don't understand the point. My eyes "cross" when I take my glasses off for photographs. I could easily put a hat on for public surveillance photos, add a wig, change my hairstyle, wear dark glasses, whatever..... And SMILING is my primary facial expression! If these photographs are meant to be matched up to facial recognition databases, then going by the parameters required, my photograph on my driver's license should NEVER come close to real life.

Does anybody here know the real purpose of "facial recognition" photos?

You can also buy SkypeIn numbers all over the world to receive calls.

If you use a prepaid visa card registered to a made up name/address to pay for it's pretty anonymous.

You could even use a VPN to hide your real IP from Skype.

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This is a long post, one of the longest I've written in some time but I believe it's important for this mother to help another in a very painful situation help her son, herself and her other children. (It may also help other mothers BUT I don't want to turn this site into a parenting advice site.) I have been in a substantially similar situation with my son, my family and community and I navigated us both, successfully, through it. I did so based on a seemingly novel concept these days; one not mentioned by the well-meaning men here who are, by and large, right with their suggestions.

The concept? Even if this will be the first time you have, assert your parental/motherly authority with your 19-year-old son and kids! "Legal Adult" does NOT mean "grown man" in most cases. So, not only do with your other children what has been suggested, do the following with your 19-year-old. If you do, he can't focus on any negative behavior of yours but must face the one who stares back at him from a mirror as the one responsible for this situation he's about to be in.

Write a letter to your 19-year-old and send it to wherever you know he's staying or can pick up mail. (Call him only if you're compelled but this step is crucial and may preclude significant "mother guilt" later.) It's important you make some contact with him about this situation because he really is still a kid and, unfortunately, has like most teens do, lost his mind. He won't wouldn't, likely, recover it for several years, even without the drug use. In the letter, you need to remind him that you are the same mother he once loved and respected (even if that's not quite true). Give a few examples of good times, of times he trusted you and things turned out well (use the "remember when" tone, not "see, I told you so") and tell him you understand how hurt he was when you moved from California (not "how I hurt you") but you had to move and couldn't leave him there because you love him. Tell him that his reaction to that choice is painful and disturbing to you and you're having a hard time understanding it.

(Skip the "you're my baby" thing; it will completely undermine your authority because kids this age think that's weird and creepy. Also, don't lecture him and remember, he's a male; no pity party, "poor me", sentiment; NO accusations and keep your points short and to the point. Your entire letter should be 3/4 to one full page MAX.)

Then, say to him the following: "While I still love you and always will, it is not loving to allow you to behave criminally toward us or enable your drug use. That would be selfish of me because it would be based on my fear that you will reject me or because I feel guilty that you seem so enraged toward me my choice to move you here and then confront I you with your behavior instead of taking it on myself. It would be my trying to avoid dealings with those feelings. THAT is an injustice to us all and THAT I refuse to be selfish. I will no longer allow my misgivings or any unresolved guilt I have to be something that stands between you and your recovery. I will not give you that excuse to continue your behavior, either. That's my problem and the way you've chosen to respond is your responsibility. I know you can make different choices. Therefore, I will NOT tolerate this behavior (specify behavior--consider using bullet points since that works best with most males, especially teens) any longer. Until you (get counseling, go to rehab, get and stay sober, get work, go to Job Corps and get your GED and a trade, whatever), you will not be welcomed near or in our home, me or your younger siblings."

What you say next depends on where you are emotionally or psychologically or if the situation has gone too far. But, you MUST have the emotional courage to say the following: "Moreover, son (add name), if you do X again (state what X is, even if it's a list but stay FACTUAL, not accusatory), I promise you, for your own good and ours, I will do Y (state what Y is)." Make sure its press charges and insist on his arrest, get a T.R.O., peace order or some other legal action. If the situation has gone too far for you to allow him to do another thing, say: "Since you persist in doing X" (again, identify all of X), I've done Y" (and identify what Y is and actual have done it if you say you have). Again, make sure it's some form of LEGAL action because you MUST do this to protect yourself from an increasingly irrational and dangerous young man who happens to be your son--and protect the public from him, too.

Then, end with "I love you son but I hope (or pray if you're a person of faith) you won't force me to do whatever I must--within the law--to protect you from yourself but us from your conduct."

That last part gives you the 'right' to move away and not tell him where you are without telling him you're doing so. He also can't later come back and say he wasn't warned that you would do this because you said you would "do whatever I must", right?

THEN, and this is critical, you MUST follow up on your promises, Tiki. It won't be easy and WILL be painful but this is crucial not just for your 19-year-old but for YOU and your other children. They may even act out or angry toward you and others (presenting other issues you'll have to confront as directly) BUT they, ultimately, they will feel you protected them--but only if you stand your ground. (Get counseling support if you need to in order to do this. If you a person of faith, rely on that and get appropriate counseling, too, if necessary.) This will make you stronger and feel like a more capable mother and woman. If you are feeling apologetic, only apologize to your son or the other children that they FEEL hurt by your actions; NEVER apologize FOR your actions to ANYONE unless they are truly foul, selfish or unjust; these are right, appropriate and just. And only explain your decisions or actions if you choose to and ONLY to the members of your family and those friends who will understand. Tell everyone else nothing and, if necessary, MYOB!

NEXT, MOVE away, FAST and as far away as possible. Get some help from domestic violence programs, if necessary BUT insist on your how HTBI privacy practices. (For instance, you don't want your name, your kids names, etc. in some state social services database unless that's the only way you can get help.) DO NOT reveal your location to anyone who can't support you or to your 19-year-old whose spent six weeks in detox and rehab and swears he's changed. Tell him, "That's great, son! So which half-way house are you going to for continued treatment or recovery?" or "So have you considered Job Corps to get your GED and a trade?" DO NOT let him return until he's whole because he'll revert.

CUT OFF unsupportive family members and so-called friends like the gangrene they are on your life. Let them deal with your son if they believe his lies. They'll learn the truth real quick. Keep your private life PRIVATE; tell them little or nothing. Tell the other kids only what they need to know or insist they not violate your privacy rules. (That was a punishable offense n my family when I was growing up. Whatever happened to that 'rule of law'?)

Is all of this hard? Absolutely. I know. I compelled my son at around the same age to go to a program (though it wasn't for drugs, thankfully) and told him that he did not have the option of returning to live with me so he had better make it work. My family and some of my friends thought I was mean, unreasonable, selfish and evil but I warned them that there would be hell to pay if they intervened or bailed my son out. I told them not to mind my business for me or else. Everybody complied because they KNEW I meant it.

The reason they got it was because, on more than one occasion, when I've had to protect myself and my son from what I considered a very dysfunctional and unsafe birth family situation...when I was determined to break that cycle...I would cut my family off and/or move away. To this day, I live a fair distance from any of them--even my son. But, guess what? It worked and it still works. All of it.

Did change happen overnight? No way. For my son, it took several years. He got his act together. When he started to go sideways again recently (at age 23) due to normal struggles that young people have but exacerbated by the economic collapse, I intervened again, removed him from the situation and put him elsewhere, in a situation appropriate for him. He is, once again, happily thriving and moving toward his calling. Moreover, he grew up a LOT after I "redirected" him to other activities this summer to protect him from dysfunctional family. He feels better about himself than he ever has and knows where he belongs and who he is. A big bonus to that 'intervention' this summer? Our relationship, which had been so strained we had not spent time together for more than a few days, was restored when we spent weeks together recently. I would and will do any of this again if I must because my son trusts me because of what I have done and is aware of how it has benefited him.

And my birth family? Well, they've been transformed through my own inner-transformation work that occurred when I moved away from them and insisted they respect the 'new' me (which I attribute entirely to my faith). They have used my techniques with their own kids (or those I've suggested to them based on the particular child's personality and needs) and those kids are transformed. ALL of us are different people and our family is close in ways it's never been---at least in my immediate family. If my extended family decides they rather like the happier existence we now have and they want that, too, they're welcomed into our world. If not, they're not. Keep away; keep FAR away.

As to the blog idea, it's a good one but mostly for you because it may be cathartic BUT be careful because this can appear somewhat self-serving and backfire. Eventually, those who really care will learn the truth without your having to expose yourself or your private matter. Also, if you post ANYTHING that's not public information to disprove your son's accusations...even if strictly your opinion, HE could sue you for defamation, libel and invasion of privacy. Check out the link below for what the true legal definition of "invasion of privacy" under common law is (this is a simple explanation) and learn the other implications for bloggers under the law from sites like medialaw.org or poynter.org. Unless you're a fairly well-known, longtime journalist, even if only in your community, you can't assert "reporter's privilege". Some state laws prevent bloggers from being sued, in most cases, others do not. Learn what side of law you'd be on. Even redacted works that you point others to are associated with you and that's a privacy killer if you get sued. Also, remember, what you put on the internet STAYS on the internet, so, if your son gets his life together, this information may come back to harm him later. Make sure you're willing to deal with the consequences of that.

Finally, Tiki, you and I both know that, most of the time, being a mother is a thankless, arduous and painful job. But, if you "raise your child in the way they should go (that is, based on THEIR particular personality, not only YOUR goals for them), when they get old, they will not depart from it". However, your children will likely thank you if you do the right thing--which ain't always the easy thing--for them, regardless of naysayers and howling from your kids.

I wish you Godspeed in this situation. Been there (and back with my niece about 18 months ago) so I feel your pain. But, tough love WORKS, so get tough and be loving for your sake and that of your children. Keep in mind that others are watching and may take a page or three out of your book. Place that in the back of your mind and do what's right for YOUR family, not what may be right for someone else's.

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