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6478. Marc
Burlingame, CA
Age: 45
Oct 1, 2009
Re: Internet marketer public / private
The person referenced appears to have been arrested for fraud and plead guilty to the charge.

If you do questionable things, people will come find you. Not exactly a path to privacy.

Submitted Link #1: http://mikeyounglaw.com/wp/2009/08/28/perry-belche...

6477. Mark
Eagle, Idaho
Age: 58
Oct 1, 2009
Where to host an Internet-based business?
What procedures do you recommend for hosting an Internet-based business? Do you suggest using a hosting company outside the US?

If you recommend using hosting companies outside the US, are there particular countries, (or companies) you can recommend? Or do you recommend using US companies?

Can you give us an example of how you would recommend a web-based business arrange hosting, and payment with the hosting company. Thanks very much!

... The simplest solution is to pay extra to whoever sets up your website if he will act as your nominee.

Otherwise, you might try checking on one of the South American countries. A close friend, David, is a web designer who is moving back to Peru in less than two months. I'll ask him to check around down there.

6476. Joe
Danbury, CT
Age: 48
Oct 1, 2009
Internet Marketer Goes Private, Public to harsh
This internet marketer has launched a massive media campaign recently, and has quickly recoiled at the perils of being "public". Quite a tale for those who have swallowed the whole twitter, facebook, youtube, social media thing. Read the whole post, his blog is below.

Submitted Link #1: http://perrybelcher.com/blog6/2009/10/0...

6474. Mike
Orange County, CA
Age: 30
Sep 30, 2009
Creating a ghost address out of thin air
All,

Has anyone ever purchased a mailbox and added it next to several others, effectively creating a "new" ghost address? I've been thinking about the feasibility of this, and have read before that this is easy to do in a “rural” setting where rows of mailboxes are common. However, I’m thinking that in these rural environments many of the neighbors know each other, and would think it’s suspicious that a new address just popped up. If anything, I think this would be easier to accomplish in an urban setting (maybe a small condo or apartment complex), where neighbors tend to keep to themselves and ignore things like a new mailbox appearing out of nowhere.

Can anyone shed some light on the legality of this, as well?

... I once mentioned this as a possibility but I've since decided it's a poor idea. One of my readers tried this a few years ago and told me it did not work for him. (I don't remember the details.)

6473. joe
Ct
Age: 48
Sep 30, 2009
Nominee Audit
I've been trying to think of possible nominees. Each time I do, I think about what I'd say if someone asked me to be their nominee. I have this respond echoing through my head. "What if I get audited by the IRS, and they ask if I have any other accounts which are not part of my standard business or personal use?" I'm thinking of the Martha Stewart case and also the Scooter Libby case, as well as this recent terroist plot in NY/COLORADO where each were indicted NOT for doing anything wrong, but for not being forthcoming during the questioning. In the spirit of not lying to the IRS, what would you tell a possible nominee who is asked about this account, under their SSN. Yes, I know it is a "non interest bearing" account, so it is not income. But if I run hundreds of thousands of dollars through the account, I'm not the one who's going to be accountable...the nominee is. This make any sense?

... Report all income on Schedule C (or whatever). If audited, accept this account as your own. You are therefore not lying to the IRS, and neither are you avoiding taxes.

6472. Anna Marie
Bethesda MD
Age: 39
Sep 30, 2009
Rental history databases
Can anyone tell me more about these rental history databases? I know several readers have inquired about maintaining privacy while receiving rental income - do any readers know anything about these? What information do they contain? See number seven in this link. (The link contains other valuable database information, as well.)

Submitted Link #1: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/consumer

6466. Iris
King George, VA
Age: 40
Sep 30, 2009
Tatiana
I have mail going to two places. One is a new post office box. I have given that address to very few and suprisingly; have not been flooded with junk mail. That would lead me to believe that either the post office did not sell or post my info out for the public to see or the junk mail folks haven't gotten me into their system.

The second place I get mail is at my home address (in the works of changing that). I must add that although I have my address on the mail; it gets delivered to my parent's mail box because I took mine down (didn't want folks to have access to my street number). My parents live next door; so that is probably why the mail person just started putting my mail in their box.

So a couple suggestions for you; do you have a neighbor you could see about "sharing" a mail box? If you do get another mailbox, add a name or two of "children" (with different last names) who will get mail there. You wouldn't have ID for a 5 yr old, but it would enable you to get mail to that PO box under different names.

6465. tatiana
putnam, ny
Age: 40
Sep 29, 2009
Post Office Boxes.
JJL and Forum Participants, What (if any) notices are created when a person opens a new Post Office Box; at, either the USPS or a Commercial operation? Thanks - T.

6460. Lewis
Athens,GA
Age: 34
Sep 28, 2009
What if this grandmother had followed HTBI?
The law would still be ensnaring others. What do y'all think? Indiana Grandmother arrested for buying cold medicine!!! PROSECUTOR UNRELENTING.

This makes me sick. I'm not trying to argue politics or religion, but just look around and use your common sense, and see if you don't feel like we are in a police state.

From the article, "...a grandmother of triplets who bought one box of Zyrtec-D cold medicine for her husband at a Rockville pharmacy. Less than seven days later, she bought a box of Mucinex-D cold medicine for her adult daughter at a Clinton pharmacy, thereby purchasing 3.6 grams total of pseudoephedrine in a week’s time...When the police came knocking at the door of Harpold’s Parke County residence on July 30, she was arrested on a Vermillion County warrant for a class-C misdemeanor, which carries a sentence of up to 60 days in jail and up to a $500 fine."

Submitted Link #1: http://www.tribstar.com/local/local_story_24622591...

... I like this comment, below:

"If you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about, right? Oh wait... "

6457. tatiana
putnam, ny
Age: 40
Sep 28, 2009
Mail Forwarding.
Dear JJL and Forum Participants, About 6 months ago I issued a Temporary Forwarding request to the USPS for the mail that comes to my house. The Post Office Box to which I had my mail forwarded has been in place for +/-20 years, and it is linked to my home address. My objective was to not have my mail left in my mail box at home, and to accomplish this without drawing attention to any changes in my address. As of this writing I have not been able to set-up a ghost address. The Temporary Forwarding will expire in about 10 Days. I'm afraid that if I make the Temporary Forwarding order Permanent I will put the world on notice of a change, which is the wrong outcome at the wrong time from my prospective. I have a second P.O.B in a corporate name (this corporation has problems, which I fear could cause the box to be closed) also linked to my home address. I have considered simply issuing a new Temporary Forwarding order for this second P.O.B. For various reasons I must take this matter seriously at this time in my life. I do not know what to do and I ask for advice and suggestions. Thanks to all, in advance. T.

... Yes, do get a second temporary forwarding address. The question is, to where? The corporate PO Box doesn't sound good. If no other option, you could possibly try a CMRA.

6456. Ian
London UK
Age: 44
Sep 28, 2009
Use an LLC in the UK?
Is there any use for a NM LLC over here, besides opening a bank account?

... If you form a UK corporation, check to see if it can be owned by an LLC. I know it can be done in Sweden, Belgium, and Portugal, and is a great way to keep corporate ownership private.

6451. Mark
Eagle,Idaho
Age: 58
Sep 26, 2009
Using a NM LLC for a totally internet-based businees
Can a NM LLC be used to manage a business whose income is generated entirely over the Internet? The day-to-day management of the company can be conducted using a laptop from different states (or countries).

Would it be best to use two NM LLCs, one owning the other LLC that would open a bank account?

Thanks!

... Have you read "SKIP COLLEGE?" There is a suggestion on how to do business with certain initials, and how to open a personal account in a small bank in a faraway state.

In other words, you'd do business with the LLC (perhaps owned by another one for an additional level of privacy) but use a personal bank account for checking. LLCs are also useful for signing contracts, receiving royalties, and so on. (The copyright for HTBI is held by a NM LLC but the royalties go into a private account.)

Also, have you considered using a ghost address in Spain's Canary Islands? Might be helpful!

6450. Gabe
Phoenix
Age: 27
Sep 25, 2009
Insurance for Car within LLC
Hi JJ, I am currently under my parents insurance... If i title a car within an LLC, would there be anything wrong with staying under my parents insurance? Whats the difference? Insurance goes by VIN number, correct? My name doesnt currently show up on the insurance card and have had no problems in terms of insurance fixing any accident or filing a claim... Am i missing something here?

... No, I do not think you are missing anything. All five of my current vehicles are titled in separate LLCs but insured (all in a group family plan) in my own name.

6449. Charles
Summit, NJ
Age: 58
Sep 25, 2009
SSN on income tax payments
RE: Jay #6409 Jay, as a tax consultant for over 25 years, I agree that this is not a big deal 99.9% of the time. However, I would not want to be someone who is part of the 0.1%.

Now, some folks would say that I am paranoid. Maybe, but I believe it is better to be safe than sorry. Therefore, I have recommended to clients to NEVER put their SSN on checks. Why? Ask yourself just one question. What happens if your check gets stolen? To make sure this is very unlikely, I suggest following these steps:

1. Always include a voucher (which has your name, address, and SSN on it) with your check. If you have a tax consultant, he/she generates these for you, yes?

2. Always have your tax consultant (or you): [a] go to the post office and mail your payment by Certified Mail, OR [b] deliver your payment to an IRS office and make sure you get a receipt showing when delivered, amount of your payment, and (crucial) what tax it's for, and what tax period. OR [c] if privacy is not a concern, you can make an electronic payment to IRS or your state. (If privacy IS a concern, another possibility is to have your tax consultant make the payment for you). Hope this helps.

6448. Drake
LA, CA
Age: 34
Sep 25, 2009
Smart Phone
Interesting technology.

Submitted Link #1: http://www.livescience.com/technology/090924-smart...

6447. Wendy
Richardson, TX
Age: 45
Sep 25, 2009
For those of you who've questioned my sanity...
...when I stated my stalker uses an aircraft in his criminal pursuit of me, the story below should vindicate me.

Like I've repeatedly said, for those who have the resources, an aircraft is a vehicle or just another mode of transportation just like a car is for the average person. It's as normal for them to fly as it is for others to drive. That means a stalker with money can not only have a small aircraft, it can be equipped with all manner of surveillance technology and its ownership be hidden behind trusts and other legal entities. In fact, there are trusts and LLC specifically created for aircraft. Flying licenses are easier to hide than driver's licenses, too.

Thankfully, aircraft aren't as easy to disguise or hide as most ground vehicles so, I suspect this activity will be caught and prosecuted far more in the future and I pray that my stalker is among those next apprehended.

Submitted Link #1: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/25/california.pil...

6446. Wendy
Richardson, TX
Age: 45
Sep 25, 2009
Billing as LLC, Paying Bills Privately
Mike, while I agree that Joe should require the client pay the payee that is on the contract he should have signed with that client (Joe, you DID execute a written contract, right?), which is probably him, there are myriad reasons why Joe SHOULD be billing as an LLC and why the client might require that in the future.

Here's the first from the client side: sole proprietors are far more likely to be deemed employees by the IRS than LLCs, which have their own tax ID numbers and are required to provide their clients a w-9. The client can prove it paid an entity to provide the services, not a sole proprietor. This substantially reduces potential tax liability (and scrutiny) by the IRS since, these days, each time an employer/client cuts a 1090 for a sole proprietorship, it looks like, to the IRS, the individual is attempting to use friends and family as off-the-books employees for whom they pay no employment taxes or "hiring contractors" to "provide services" in order to write off as services expenditures that otherwise are not deductible.

From Joe's standpoint, a CORRECTLY formed and operated business LLC protects his privacy (yes, it can be done; I'm doing it routinely and easily), his assets from liability and allows him to do a number of other things in the name of his LLC rather than his own. That's because each time you conduct a transaction as a sole proprietor, you subject yourself to litigation of some form or fashion from the date you conduct the service until the statute of limitation is up on that kind of civil suit even if you form an entity under which to conduct business and transfer contracts and business activities during that statutory period when a civil action is possible

. Since you were doing business in your own name during that time, you can be sued. (In fact, this may be another reason Joe's client prefers him to be operating under an LLC--if the client has "deep pockets" and Joe is sued by anybody for anything, even if the client isn't involved or related to the suit, guess who suddenly find themselves a defendant?) There are ways to form and operate the entire enterprise so Joe is thoroughly protected AND private. Joe should do just that and offer his services as an LLC while not unnerving the IRS (I do NOT mess with the Department of Treasury!), banks or clients in the way he operates the entity. Keep in mind, this is about privacy, not conducting nefarious activities.

In fact, when I was growing up, I was taught that "privacy" means DISCRETION, not SECRECY. Shakespeare's Falstaff in Henry IV said "valor is the better part of discretion." Now, he was thought to be behaving nefariously in his use of "discretion" having faked his death to keep from being killed on the battlefield. But, he believed he was smart and his "smarts" were a form of courage and caution (discretion)--to be careful meant to stay alive and living meant other opportunities to be valorous. In business, the same principal applies.

Be cautious and judicious; set up an LLC, which is considered a "legal fiction" that is operated on behalf of the people behind it, yet, legally, if properly formed and operated, it protects you so you can survive "another day" in business--and keep yourself safe from the frivolous litigation (and other business tactics like the "Red Flag Rule") that represent today's unjust war on small businesses and individuals. There's nothing brave about leaving yourself wide open to destruction by failing to prudently form and use the entity protection the US Constitution affords you.

Brian, I agree with Mike because, yes, paying your utility bills with a bank or credit card in your own name leaves a paper trail that points to you. Public utility information is just that--public (and while pretexting to get telephone records is illegal, such pretexting hasn't entirely gone away and is quite common for other types of utilities). Though difficult to do and not smart and much easier to discover (um, social engineering requires humans and humans are fallible; the same gullibility, greed or guile that leads to the disclosure of information is used to disclose that disclosure--we investigative journos know), it's still used by unscrupulous individuals so don't take the chance if you have legitimate reason to worry.

If you can't establish a nominee or LLC bank account to use to pay bills (and, remember, a NMLLC can be used for "any lawful purpose", whether for commerce or holding or managing property), use cash or money orders to pay bills. If you can find an out-of-the-way convenience store or check cashing place that takes utility payments, walk in and make them there. If you're not comfortable doing that, use snail mail with a ghost address as a return address.

Alternatively, if you can, get a reloadable prepaid card of some kind--though this is hard to do without providing your social security number, I understand. Gift cards are another alternative but you'll spend a lot on those. Sending payments via Western Union or MoneyGram could work but that's more of a database paper trail so use those options with caution.

And, if you use an LLC, tie it to the mailing address for your utility bills and use it solely for the purpose of paying bills and NEVER use it for anything connected to your true name AND social security number and/or true address and/or D.O.B. EVER.

6444. Wendy
Richardson, TX
Age: 45
Sep 24, 2009
Joe's Dilemma
JJL, Joe's dilemma represents a no brainer to me. If he's left you an email address, please have him email me.--Wendy

... Note to readers: Here's an example of why you should include a VALID e-mail address with each post. Joe gave me one ... but it doesn't work. (I've had similar experiences before.)

6443. Mike
Orange County, CA
Age: 30
Sep 24, 2009
California Business + Joe + Brian
I highly encourage all Californian entrepreneurs to MOVE. California just ranked 49th in the list of "best states for an entrepreneur to start a business”. The state government (both parties) is quickly driving this place into the ground with their ignorance, taxes, greed, and corruption – the state will soon hit rock bottom (and stay there for awhile) before (hopefully) recovering. I’ve lived here my entire life, own several pieces of property here, yet I am feverishly planning my escape. California is, by far, the WORST state in the union at this point in time.

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Joe, your client has NO right to require you to form an LLC to get paid. If they owe you money, they must pay. You need to sever ties with this client after getting paid. Remind them that you have performed a service, and they owe you a payment. If they don’t pay, it’s lawsuit time. There are plenty of other clients out there, so ditch these guys.

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Brian, just pay your utilities with money orders. Yes it can be inconvenient and a little more expensive, but privacy comes with a cost. In my mind, there is no point in going through the effort of signing up for a utility or service in an alternate name, only to give yourself away through your method of payment. Accounts receivable clerks can be bribed to look up payment information through lockbox images or other databases. There is a local liquor store near me that sells Western Union money orders for $1.50/each. I struck a deal with them to lower the price to $0.50/each by purchasing only 20 of them per month (I pay EVERYTHING with money orders).

6442. joe
Ct.
Age: 48
Sep 24, 2009
Client now requires I bill as LLC
A long time client informs me I must send in my next invoice as an LLC. I must have this incoime. What is the smartest way to execute this asap. I know, and have read the HTBI recommendations on NOT using NM LLC's for business EIN#'s. I do not have time to find a nominee. I have ten days. Here are my solutioins: Form a CT LLC to handle this situation, move next Summer and leave cleint and terminate the LLC or leave it dormant. I hate having to file an LLC for just one client. I keep so low key that I've been able to get away for years w/o a biz LLC. any suggestions?


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